Ledger sub is filled with a bunch of paid shills that are constantly misleading newbs.

Some people may think Ledger fiasco is yesterday news, and it's no longer worth posting or talking about, but that's exactly what Ledger wants.

Ledger want us to forget about their HW being close sourced and have the capabilities of transmitting seed of their devices while they amass their next "100m users".

Any person that are still talking about Ledger true risk are going to attacked by hundreds of Ledger's bot account and paid shills.

For example I made a post informing everyone confused in that sub that no matter what devices or firmware version they are using, they are on a constant risk because they are using a close sourced HW from a company that have been lying and have track record of leaking customers data.

But it's been downvote to hell when the post started to gain some traction, and all the paid shills and bot account commenting in the post doesn't have a valid arguments on why is it still safe to use Ledger but they simply try to downplay the issues by attacking or comment nonsense.

Some may think it's no longer worth posting about Ledger, but is that the case? I made that exact post because I still see many confused people posting about "am I safe if I don't update", "am I safe if i dont opt in to ledger recover" and "am i safe if i use model nano s", then the customer support would then reply those confused person and continue to confuse and mislead them.

Ledger marketing tactics has always been shady, omitting important fact, not disclosing the true risk and they hope not to talk about their HW as close sourced whenever it's possible.

I go into every post from a confused ledger owner and tell them the true risk, then my reply would get downvotes to eventually missed by those OPs.

I feel powerless and tired to fight with those shills and I am so ashamed Ledger is the company I once trusted and even recommended to people.

Posting this here is I hope that people frequent their sub and this sub to understand most of the pro-Ledger comments or post in that sub is completely bias and paid shills, all of them hide the true risk that if you use Ledger you are not truly self custody, you're trusting a close sourced HW from a company that have been lying and leaking customers info.